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This video is a part of Unit 4- The profession,

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Element 2- Interpersonal skills.

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This is Validation Meeting:
Interpersonal skills.

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This video is made from

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validation meeting video snippets.

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The meeting was held in October 2020

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by Zavod RISA.

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The group of validators in this video

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is an experienced group.

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The members have already participated in validations,

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but not yet online.

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The validators in the meeting are
Nevenka Kos,

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Mojca Šmon, Marjetka Levar

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and Nejko Perko.

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The meeting is facilitated
by Tatjana Knapp and Estera Slatinšek.

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TATJANA: Let us start, OK?

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Any volunteers for reading out loud?

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MOJCA: Me. 
NEJKO: Yes, me.

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TATJANA: Mojca called it first,
so she goes first

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and then you, Nejko, alright?

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NEJKO: Alright.

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TATJANA: Good.

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Mojca, is the position on your screen OK?

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MOJCA: Yes.

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Who are children with special needs?

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People have different barriers.

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TATJANA: Who are the children in the picture?

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What is special about them?
Marjetka?

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MARJETKA: One has a cane...

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TATJANA: Yes. 
What else does the first boy have?

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MOJCA: This is Jakob.

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Jakob is a boy with down syndrome. 

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TATJANA: 
Nevenka, you suggested using examples.

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NEVENKA: True.

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TATJANA: Does this fit your idea?

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NEVENKA: Yes.
NEJKO: Like this, yes.

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TATJANA: Good. 
Who is in the picture then?

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NEJKO: Jakob.

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TATJANA: True.
Jakob, the boy with the down syndrome.

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MOJCA: Nevenka!

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NEVENKA: Yes, I am here.

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TATJANA: Did you want to make a comment?

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NEVENKA: I think it is really good.

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TATJANA: Good, ay?

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NEVENKA: It clearly says...

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This is Jakob.

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Jakob is a boy with down syndrome.

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(voices overlapping)

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MOJCA: I think it is good like this, too.

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TATJANA: OK.

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MOJCA: Na sliki je Matej. 

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Matej is blind...

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with blindness...

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Matej with blindness.

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TATJANA: Who is Matej?
Matej is...

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MOJCA: Blindness...

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TATJANA: Something else comes before that.

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MOJCA: Matej is a boy with blindness...
Oh f**k.

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TATJANA: Hey, no worries.
Everyone makes reading errors. 

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This next boy...

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TATJANA: Yes, Mojca?

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MOJCA: I said, there are
a lot of you watching.

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I have stage fright!

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TATJANA: Don't worry.
I make errors all the time.

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It happens when we read out loud.

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Nevenka, what about this example?

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NEVENKA: Great.

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TATJANA: Better than at the last validation?

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NEVENKA: Yes.

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This is Matej in the picture.

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Matej is a boy with blindness.

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There could be no better example.

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TATJANA: Everything clear?

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NEVENKA: Yes.

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TATJANA: Great.
Let's move on then. Thank you.

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MOJCA: Please, move on.

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Thank you.

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This is Aja.

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Aja doesn't speak.

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NEVENKA: Aja?
I prefer Anja. 

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TATJANA (laughs): 
Aja is not OK?

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Should we change the name?

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NEVENKA and MOJCA: Anja!

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MOJCA: Nevenka is better than Aja. 

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Aja, Aja, Aja goes to bed...

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(laughter)

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TATJANA: I apologize.

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Who prefers name Jera?
Raise your hands. 

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Who prefers Jerica?
Raise your hands.

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Great. 
Jerica won.

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Who is that in the picture?

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NEJKO: This is Jerica.

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She is using a wheelchair.
Because she has trouble moving.

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TATJANA: Well done.
Thank you.

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Should we continue?

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MARJETKA and NEJKO: Yes.

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MOJCA: Move the text a bit down.

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TATJANA: Sure, sorry...

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MOJCA: Please...

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Thank you!

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TATJANA: You are welcome. 

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MOJCA: This is Maja. 

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Maja gets ang...
Is quickly ang..

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Angrily.

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TATJANA: Maja gets...

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MOJCA: Anger...

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TATJANA: Gets angry.

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Should we say 'mad' instead?

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MOJCA: Yes. 

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TATJANA: OK. 

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NEVENKA: Alleluyah, all is well! 

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(laughter)

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TATJANA: Alleluyah! 

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Do you need a break?

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MOJCA: No. 

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NEVENKA: I don't think so.

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NEJKO: Let's continue.

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TATJANA: Let's continue then.

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You can continue, Mojca.

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NEVENKA: Wait, wait a second!

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I just remembered something.

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TATJANA: Yes? Do tell.

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NEVENKA: The part of the text where...

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Go back some.

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TATJANA: Great.

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Marjetka, what does this picture show?
What do you think?

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Well...

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MARJETKA: Children.
From youngest to oldest. 

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TATJANA: Clearly.

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NEJKO: Clearly... but I am a living example...

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I was an expert in nature.

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I could have gone to a higher school.

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But the special school wouldn't allow it. 

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I got a job.

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TATJANA: A job? Nice. 

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NEJKO: I had worked in a factory for ten years.

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After ten years
I joined the sheltered workshops.

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TATJANA: And what did the factory years feel like?

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NEJKO: Tatjana, I lived through a lot.

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I cannot describe it.

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NEVENKA: Tatjana, if you will need anything...

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TATJANA: Of course. 

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I will ask for your help for sure.

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Thank you.

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NEJKO: I will gladly help. 

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No problem at all.

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TATJANA: Does anyone want to add anything?

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NEVENKA: No. 

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NEJKO: It was great. 
I learned a lot.

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I will teach two kids 
during the autumn break.

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TATJANA: Great

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NEVENKA: It was great. 

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We did a lot of work.

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MOJCA: It was interesting.

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TATJANA: I admit I learned some things. 

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Nejko, you wanted to say something?

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(laughter)

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MOJCA: Nejko is goofing around.

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TATJANA: Good…

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So have a great day and I will see you on
Friday at ten-thirty.

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NEVENKA: See you on Friday.

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NEJKO: You, too.

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Learn things!

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ESTERA: Take care.

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EVERYONE: Bye. See you soon.

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Hello, I'm Drago Brumen.

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I work at RISA.

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At the time of COVID-19, we took most of our
validating online.

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This means that we work with validators online.

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On the one hand, this is more difficult because
some people are not used to talking online.

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Sometimes there are problems with the equipment
or connection.

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We are not in the same room.

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It often happens
that we talk over each other.

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On the other hand, the coordinator can share
his or her screen.

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We all have the same information on the screens.

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And it's fun and modern.

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However, we hope to return to meetings and
live conversations soon.

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This video was prepared by Tatjana Knapp and
produced by Tatjana Knapp and Drago Brumen

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from Zavod RISA.

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Thanks to all who participated.